Audacious - OLD, PLEASE USE GITHUB DISCUSSIONS/ISSUES

It seems usable enough to me on Win7 (real hardware) and WinXP (virtual machine). I don't have a copy of Windows 8 or 8.1 to test with. But it is likely a problem in GTK+ (the widget toolkit) or Cairo (the graphics library) rather than in Audacious proper. Unfortunately, neither of those libraries has very good Win32 support. Often I have to add patches to them or ship out-of-date versions with Audacious to get them to work at all.

"John Lindgren wrote:

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I don't have a copy of Windows 8 or 8.1 to test with.

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See:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/hh699156.aspx

;)

"John Lindgren wrote:

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Often I have to add patches to them or ship out-of-date versions with Audacious to get them to work at all.

[...]"

Which GTK+ 3 version are you using in audacious-3.4.3a-win32 and audacious-3.5-alpha1-win32?

Not long ago, GTK+ 3 wasn't even avaible for Windows on gtk.org.

But now it is available, see:

http://www.gtk.org/download/win32.php

It says "GTK+ 3.6.4 is the current maintained version.".

And on the following page:

http://www.gtk.org/download/win32_tutorial.php

it says:

"GTK+3 is known to work on Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8 at this date."

So maybe try the GTK+ 3 version from over there (in case you aren't doing it already)?

Regards

3.4.3 and 3.5-alpha1 include a patched version of GTK+ 3.8.4, which I build from source. I am well aware that gtk.org was not publishing builds until recently. It would have been pointless until about 3.4.x anyway, since 3.0.x and 3.2.x were essentially garbage on Win32. More recently, the developers have solved all the Win32 bugs in 3.10.x by making sure that no one can even build it on Win32 [1]. Perhaps you begin to understand my frustration ...

Using the pre-built GTK+ 3.6.x would be unacceptable for at least a couple of different reasons:

1. All recent GTK+ versions (since 3.0) require patching [2] to enable ClearType. Without ClearType, fonts look like Windows 95.
2. 3.8 merged in a series of GtkTreeView patches [3] that are needed for playlist columns to resize correctly.

Thanks for the link to the Windows trial version. However, I'm unlikely to have the time or the desire to debug a GTK+ performance issue on Win32 in the near future, especially if it involves installing a new copy of Windows.

[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700445
[2] https://github.com/audacious-media-player/audacious/blob/master/contrib/win32/patches/gtksettings.c.diff
[3] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691751

John Lindgren wrote:

Thanks for the link to the Windows trial version. However, I'm unlikely to have the time or the desire to debug a GTK+ performance issue on Win32 in the near future, especially if it involves installing a new copy of Windows.

Installing Win8.1 on real hardware is very fast, at least when installing from a USB flash drive:

http://wudt.codeplex.com/ (also works for Win8.1, despite it's name)

It takes just a few minutes, at least AFAIK.

Don't know about installing it on a virtual machine though.

John Lindgren wrote:

Perhaps you begin to understand my frustration ...

Please see:

http://redmine.audacious-media-player.org/boards/1/topics/1100

Regards